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Using mydrive.tomtom.com it imports gpx files ok and syncs them to the Start 52 but there does not seem to be a facility to import itn files. As I have quite a lot of itn files I assumed it could import both.
Hi again.... @Bobtec
To import your existing .ITN Routes..... Using a Micro SD Card...
The example is transferring a Route to Device but you can transfer both ways
To transfer a route to your NAV4 device using a Micro SD Memory Card.....
Format you memory card on your PC to FAT32 format
Copy you .GPX or .ITN route file to your Memory Card
My GO 5000 showing no routes installed...
(It's The same method for my Rider 400 & 550)
Insert the SD Memory card into the Card Slot the device will recognise the Memory Card.....
Hi @Bobtech
Welcome to the site....
The MyDrive Web Route planner does not import .ITN Routes....
See 2nd Post....
____________________________
A Route planned directly on the device generates a .ITN Route....
A Route planned using MyDrive Connect and saved to the device using the Save & Sync option is a .GPX Track
A Route planned using MyDrive Connect and saved to the device using the 'Send Stops'option is an ITN route....
Maybe Useful.... I prefer .ITN Routes....
A Route planned directly on the device is a .ITN Route
An .ITN Route uses Stops and the device plans the route between the stops... An .ITN Route will respond to Live Traffic and any route deviations BUT an .ITN route will doggedly follow the stops in the order they were created, if you miss a stop, the device will continuously attempt to guide you to the missed stop... You have to cancel the problem stop on the device to avoid it
If you want to force a different route you simply add more stops
Note...When you add the extra Stops Max Zoom right into the road
Don't put the stop on the wrong side of a dual track road (Journey loop back errors)
Don't put the stop up a side-road... It may guide you though a built-up area via side streets back to your route, instead of a u-turn
Don't put the stop on a traffic Island always place a guidance stop further up the road on the route after the required traffic island exit....
___________________________
Using the MyDrive Web Route planner....
Using a .ITN Route planned on the MDW Route planner... The latest version of MyDrive Web Route planner....
For .ITN Routes with NO Stops... The Menu Shows 'Send Destination'
For .ITN Routes with Stops........... The Menu Changes to 'Send Stops'
The MyDrive Web Route planner only sends the route to the device as a Destination... Or if you add Stops it send it as a Route (But it is not automatically saved in MyRoutes)
If you are using .ITN route and 'Send Stops' see my workaround below
Complex Twenty Stop .ITN Route Rider 400
Be Aware .ITN Routes....
If your starting point IS NOT your present location there's a BUG
When using the 'Send Stops' option, during an "A" to "B" route transfer and when 'A' IS NOT your present location...
The device drops Location "A"
This bug also applies to Multi-Stop/Waypoint routes... 'A' to 'B' to 'C' to' D' to 'E' etc...
(1).... Plan my Route with the MyDrive Web Route planner (With or Without Stops as required)
(2)... Zoom in... Place a Sacrificial stop close to the Start Icon
(4)... Choose the 'Send Stops' option... The route will sync to your device
(5)... The device will calculate your route from your 'Present location'
(5.1)... The device will calculate your route using Stops in the order that you placed the Stops in the route
(5.2)... If the planned Start of the Route is your 'Present location'... Then skip Bullet-point... (6)
(6)... When the route has calculated, Pinch zoom to the correct start of your Route (The Sacrificial Stop Icon) 'Long Tap' (Tap and hold for +1 second) on the Sacrificial Stop Icon --> A quick menu opens --> Tap the 3Dot icon --> Choose 'Use as a Starting Point'
The device will calculate your route from your new location
(7)... Saving the Route
'Quick Tap' anywhere on the Route --> A quick menu opens --> Tap the 3Dot icon --> Manage route --> Add to my Routes.... Edit the Route name as required or simply Tap Add
_____________________________________
Note... (1) A 'Quick Tap' and 'Long Tap' of the screen gives different menu options Note... (2) The MyDrive Web Route planner will sync a route with a Max of 20 stops
Hi again.... @Bobtec
To import your existing .ITN Routes..... Using a Micro SD Card...
The example is transferring a Route to Device but you can transfer both ways
To transfer a route to your NAV4 device using a Micro SD Memory Card.....
Format you memory card on your PC to FAT32 format
Copy you .GPX or .ITN route file to your Memory Card
My GO 5000 showing no routes installed...
(It's The same method for my Rider 400 & 550)
Insert the SD Memory card into the Card Slot the device will recognise the Memory Card.....
Thanks for your very comprehensive post which has taught me a lot about itn and gpx files. I have just bought a Start 52 as I couldn't afford anything else and my model 4AA53 doesn't have an SD card which is why I could not work out how to transfer itn files to the Start 52. I think they used to have SD cards on this model but not anymore.
Your explanation about itn files was very helpful. A friend with a more upmarket tomtom gave me some itn files and I found if I open them using notepad I can see all the stops and then just create a itn file in the Start 52.
Its a bit amateurish but in the end it works. Someone else said you can get file conversion programs that can change and itn file to a gpx file but I haven't found which programs do that.
It seems a bit strange that the tomtom route program can import gpx but not itn.
Hi Again @Bobtec
The Start 52 Micro SDHC Memory Card slot is situated under the Mount....
See Tomtom Video....
View Video at 1 Min 10 seconds to 1 Min 23 seconds....
Hi YamFazMan
Thanks again for your advice and help. I finally found the micro sd slot on my Start 52 and wonder how I missed it when I was originally looking for it. Might be because my first car a Morris Minor had trafficator arms instead of the modern indicator lights - yep as a pensioner I'm a bit old in the tooth.
So now I need to read all your posts again as it looks like my original question of how to get int files into my Start 52 can be done using the SD card.
Many thanks Bob
Bobtec
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Superusers
@Bobtech
Welcome to the site....
The MyDrive Web Route planner does not import .ITN Routes....
See 2nd Post....
____________________________
A Route planned directly on the device generates a .ITN Route....
A Route planned using MyDrive Connect and saved to the device using the Save & Sync option is a .GPX Track
A Route planned using MyDrive Connect and saved to the device using the 'Send Stops'option is an ITN route....
Maybe Useful....
I prefer .ITN Routes....
A Route planned directly on the device is a .ITN Route
An .ITN Route uses Stops and the device plans the route between the stops... An .ITN Route will respond to Live Traffic and any route deviations BUT an .ITN route will doggedly follow the stops in the order they were created, if you miss a stop, the device will continuously attempt to guide you to the missed stop... You have to cancel the problem stop on the device to avoid it
If you want to force a different route you simply add more stops
Note...When you add the extra Stops Max Zoom right into the road
Don't put the stop on the wrong side of a dual track road (Journey loop back errors)
Don't put the stop up a side-road... It may guide you though a built-up area via side streets back to your route, instead of a u-turn
Don't put the stop on a traffic Island always place a guidance stop further up the road on the route after the required traffic island exit....
___________________________
Using the MyDrive Web Route planner....
Using a .ITN Route planned on the MDW Route planner...
The latest version of MyDrive Web Route planner....
For .ITN Routes with NO Stops... The Menu Shows 'Send Destination'
For .ITN Routes with Stops........... The Menu Changes to 'Send Stops'
The MyDrive Web Route planner only sends the route to the device as a Destination... Or if you add Stops it send it as a Route (But it is not automatically saved in MyRoutes)
If you are using .ITN route and 'Send Stops' see my workaround below
Complex Twenty Stop .ITN Route Rider 400
Be Aware .ITN Routes....
If your starting point IS NOT your present location there's a BUG
When using the 'Send Stops' option, during an "A" to "B" route transfer and when 'A' IS NOT your present location...
The device drops Location "A"
This bug also applies to Multi-Stop/Waypoint routes... 'A' to 'B' to 'C' to' D' to 'E' etc...
Important....
For a more detailed info about the 'Dropped 1st Stop Bug'
Click on the Link... https://discussions.tomtom.com/en/discussion/comment/1198253/#Comment_1198253
______________________________________
This is the workaround method I use....
The Tomtom MyDrive Web Route Planner....
Get it Here... https://mydrive.tomtom.com
(1).... Plan my Route with the MyDrive Web Route planner (With or Without Stops as required)
(2)... Zoom in... Place a Sacrificial stop close to the Start Icon
(4)... Choose the 'Send Stops' option... The route will sync to your device
(5)... The device will calculate your route from your 'Present location'
(5.1)... The device will calculate your route using Stops in the order that you placed the Stops in the route
(5.2)... If the planned Start of the Route is your 'Present location'... Then skip Bullet-point... (6)
(6)... When the route has calculated, Pinch zoom to the correct start of your Route (The Sacrificial Stop Icon) 'Long Tap' (Tap and hold for +1 second) on the Sacrificial Stop Icon --> A quick menu opens --> Tap the 3Dot icon --> Choose 'Use as a Starting Point'
The device will calculate your route from your new location
(7)... Saving the Route
'Quick Tap' anywhere on the Route --> A quick menu opens --> Tap the 3Dot icon --> Manage route --> Add to my Routes.... Edit the Route name as required or simply Tap Add
_____________________________________
Note... (1) A 'Quick Tap' and 'Long Tap' of the screen gives different menu options
Note... (2) The MyDrive Web Route planner will sync a route with a Max of 20 stops
Stay Safe... ATB YFM
Superusers
@Bobtec
To import your existing .ITN Routes..... Using a Micro SD Card...
The example is transferring a Route to Device but you can transfer both ways
To transfer a route to your NAV4 device using a Micro SD Memory Card.....
Format you memory card on your PC to FAT32 format
Copy you .GPX or .ITN route file to your Memory Card
My GO 5000 showing no routes installed...
(It's The same method for my Rider 400 & 550)
Insert the SD Memory card into the Card Slot the device will recognise the Memory Card.....
Routes Transferred.....
Stay Safe... ATB YFM
Thanks for your very comprehensive post which has taught me a lot about itn and gpx files. I have just bought a Start 52 as I couldn't afford anything else and my model 4AA53 doesn't have an SD card which is why I could not work out how to transfer itn files to the Start 52. I think they used to have SD cards on this model but not anymore.
Your explanation about itn files was very helpful. A friend with a more upmarket tomtom gave me some itn files and I found if I open them using notepad I can see all the stops and then just create a itn file in the Start 52.
Its a bit amateurish but in the end it works. Someone else said you can get file conversion programs that can change and itn file to a gpx file but I haven't found which programs do that.
It seems a bit strange that the tomtom route program can import gpx but not itn.
Anyway thanks for your help. Bob
Superusers
@Bobtec
The Start 52 Micro SDHC Memory Card slot is situated under the Mount....
See Tomtom Video....
View Video at 1 Min 10 seconds to 1 Min 23 seconds....
Stay Safe... ATB YFM
Superusers
@Bobtec If the journey has Stops I, much prefer .ITN Routes
For me .GPX tracks for complex journeys are totally useless....
I would suspect they would also be useless for most delivery drivers....
See... https://discussions.tomtom.com/en/discussion/comment/1708222/#Comment_1708222
Convert .ITN to GPX... POI Editor --> POI Convert
Here...https://www.poieditor.com/poi_convert/itn-to-gpx/
Stay Safe... ATB YFM
Thanks again for your advice and help. I finally found the micro sd slot on my Start 52 and wonder how I missed it when I was originally looking for it. Might be because my first car a Morris Minor had trafficator arms instead of the modern indicator lights - yep as a pensioner I'm a bit old in the tooth.
So now I need to read all your posts again as it looks like my original question of how to get int files into my Start 52 can be done using the SD card.
Many thanks Bob