MyDrive changing start point when sending stops to TomTom Rider 550
I recently bought a Tom Tom 550. I created a future route on My Drive that starts about 500 miles from my home and includes 9 intermediate stops. i can sync this route with my Tom Tom 550 without the stops and it works fine. When I click Add Stops in My Drive it sends the stops to the 550 but it changes the start point to my home, 500 miles away. I don't understand why it is doing this. Any ideas?
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Hi
@SedonaBob
If you use the Save & Sync option on the MyDrive Web Route Planner
The Save & Sync option save a .GPX Track... its basicly a bread crumb track that you follow
A Route planned directly on the device is a .ITN Route
An .ITN Route uses Stops and the device plans the route between the stops... An .ITN Route will will respond to Live Traffic and any route deviations BUT an .ITN route will doggedly follow the stops in the order they were created, if you miss a stop, the device will continuously attempt to guide you to the missed stop... You have to cancel the problem stop on the device to avoid it
Using a .ITN Route planned on the MDW Route planner...
The latest version of MyDrive Web Route planner now uses 'Send Destination' or 'Send Stops' to send an .ITN Route
The MyDrive Web Route planner only sends the route to the device as a Destination... Or if you add Stops it send it as a Route (But it's is not automatically saved in MyRoutes)
If you are using .ITN route and 'Send Stops' see my workaround below
Complex Twenty Stop .ITN Route Rider 400
Be Aware .ITN Routes....
If your starting point IS NOT your present location there's a BUG
When using the 'Send Stops' option, during an "A" to "B" route transfer and when 'A' IS NOT your present location...
The device drops Location "A"
This bug also applies also to Multi-Stop/Waypoint routes... 'A' to 'B' to 'C' to' D' to 'E' etc...
Important....
For a more detailed info about the 'Dropped 1st Stop Bug'
Click on the Link... https://discussions.tomtom.com/en/discussion/comment/1198253/#Comment_1198253
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This is the workaround method I use....
The Tomtom MyDrive Web Route Planner....
Get it Here... https://mydrive.tomtom.com
(1).... Plan my Route with the MyDrive Web Route planner (With or Without Stops as required)
(2)... Zoom in... Place a Sacrificial stop close to the Start Icon
(4)... Choose the 'Send Stops' option... The route will sync to your device
(5)... The device will calculate your route from your 'Present location'
(5.1)... The device will calculate your route using Stops in the order that you placed the Stops in the route
(5.2)... If the planned Start of the Route is your 'Present location'... Then skip Bullet-point... (6)
(6)...When the route has calculated, Pinch zoom to the correct start of your Route (The Sacrificial Stop Icon) 'Long Tap' (Tap and hold for +1 second) on the Sacrificial Stop Icon --> A quick menu opens --> Tap the 3Dot icon --> Choose 'Use as a Starting Point'
The device will calculate your route from your new location
(7)... Saving the Route
'Quick Tap' anywhere on the Route --> A quick menu opens --> Tap the 3Dot icon --> Manage route --> Add to my Routes.... Edit the route name as required or simply Tap Add
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Note... (1) A 'Quick Tap' and 'Long Tap' of the screen gives different menu options
Note... (2) The MyDrive Web Route planner will sync a route with a Max of 20 stops
ATB YFM11
Answers
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Hi
@SedonaBob
If you use the Save & Sync option on the MyDrive Web Route Planner
The Save & Sync option save a .GPX Track... its basicly a bread crumb track that you follow
A Route planned directly on the device is a .ITN Route
An .ITN Route uses Stops and the device plans the route between the stops... An .ITN Route will will respond to Live Traffic and any route deviations BUT an .ITN route will doggedly follow the stops in the order they were created, if you miss a stop, the device will continuously attempt to guide you to the missed stop... You have to cancel the problem stop on the device to avoid it
Using a .ITN Route planned on the MDW Route planner...
The latest version of MyDrive Web Route planner now uses 'Send Destination' or 'Send Stops' to send an .ITN Route
The MyDrive Web Route planner only sends the route to the device as a Destination... Or if you add Stops it send it as a Route (But it's is not automatically saved in MyRoutes)
If you are using .ITN route and 'Send Stops' see my workaround below
Complex Twenty Stop .ITN Route Rider 400
Be Aware .ITN Routes....
If your starting point IS NOT your present location there's a BUG
When using the 'Send Stops' option, during an "A" to "B" route transfer and when 'A' IS NOT your present location...
The device drops Location "A"
This bug also applies also to Multi-Stop/Waypoint routes... 'A' to 'B' to 'C' to' D' to 'E' etc...
Important....
For a more detailed info about the 'Dropped 1st Stop Bug'
Click on the Link... https://discussions.tomtom.com/en/discussion/comment/1198253/#Comment_1198253
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This is the workaround method I use....
The Tomtom MyDrive Web Route Planner....
Get it Here... https://mydrive.tomtom.com
(1).... Plan my Route with the MyDrive Web Route planner (With or Without Stops as required)
(2)... Zoom in... Place a Sacrificial stop close to the Start Icon
(4)... Choose the 'Send Stops' option... The route will sync to your device
(5)... The device will calculate your route from your 'Present location'
(5.1)... The device will calculate your route using Stops in the order that you placed the Stops in the route
(5.2)... If the planned Start of the Route is your 'Present location'... Then skip Bullet-point... (6)
(6)...When the route has calculated, Pinch zoom to the correct start of your Route (The Sacrificial Stop Icon) 'Long Tap' (Tap and hold for +1 second) on the Sacrificial Stop Icon --> A quick menu opens --> Tap the 3Dot icon --> Choose 'Use as a Starting Point'
The device will calculate your route from your new location
(7)... Saving the Route
'Quick Tap' anywhere on the Route --> A quick menu opens --> Tap the 3Dot icon --> Manage route --> Add to my Routes.... Edit the route name as required or simply Tap Add
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Note... (1) A 'Quick Tap' and 'Long Tap' of the screen gives different menu options
Note... (2) The MyDrive Web Route planner will sync a route with a Max of 20 stops
ATB YFM11 -
YamFazMan, thank you so much, this was driving me crazy! Your solution worked perfectly!2
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YamFazMan, I couldn't have put it better myself, however I think you have too much time on your hands0
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I'm sure this question has been asked before:
Is there a technical reason the MyDrive online planner does not have the ability to "sync to device" an .ITN file, a .GPX file or both ???
Currently I use MyRouteApp to build .ITN routes for each day of my motorcycle trip. Then I export each .ITN file to my Rider 550 one at a time via USB connection from my Chromebook.
I need all my pre-planned Routes (.ITN files) loaded on my GPS before departing because here in the States there will not be a phone data connection in remote areas.1 -
Is there a technical reason the MyDrive online planner does not have the ability to "sync to device" an .ITN file, a .GPX file or both ???
Any answer on this from TomTom Support?
@YamFazMan , thanks for the hint that "Send Stops" only works when the route has less or equal 20 stops. If the route has more stops, then the button is still active. You can press it but nothing is being send.
1. A limit of 20 stops for a full day tour is quite small. Of course you can split a day tour into multiple junks, but not really efficiently with MyDrive. Too many steps to perform.
2. Also my experience is that Rider 400 is pretty slow using GPX format. Especially when it comes to a dynamic re-routing. As a tour guide you can't wait that long before the Rider is again ready to go.
=> Hence the above question/request becomes even more important.1 -
Hi
@ThomasRider.....
I also use the Free, slightly quirky, but very good ITN Converter....
NO 20 Stop limit for .ITN Routes....
ITN Converter has a huge number of Map types The Tomtom Routes Map is included, the ITN Converter also Saves/Exports a huge number of route file types
Here... https://discussions.tomtom.com/en/discussion/comment/1712711/#Comment_1712711
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Save the .ITN Route file from ITN Converter to my Desktop --> Then use Tomtom Easy Route Transfer to transfer the .ITN Route to the Rider 400 or Rider 550....
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The Rider 4xx & 5xx will give you direct access to a small buffer/transfer area of the Rider 4xx & 5xx Main Memory... You can also access your Micro SD Card, you can drag & drop your .ITN or .GPX route files directly to the Rider 4xx & 5xx Memory buffer/transfer area or the Micro SD Memory card over a secure system
Here... https://discussions.tomtom.com/en/discussion/1026287/using-the-drag-drop-easy-route-upload-rider-4xx-models-only
Stay Safe... ATB YFM1