POI's functionality of the Professional 6200

BrianE
BrianE Worcester, United KingdomRegistered Users Posts: 566
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edited December 2021 in Devices using Wi-Fi®
I agree that too many false positives can to tiresome, such as along the A449 Worcester to Kidderminster route, but the TomTom has failed to warn me about a single mobile camera in this area, so to me, that does indeed equate to being useless.
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  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
    Outstanding Wayfarer
    Utterly disappointed, nope disgusted at the functionality of the Professional (haha) 6200.
    The POI function is pathetic. This is supposed to be top of the range coach/lorry satnav and yet you cant store POI's!!!!! Forums tell me I can only store 255 MyPlaces!! I've tried importing .OV2 files with ridiculous results.

    Complete waste of money. My first TomTom I bought 8/9 years ago has more functions

    DO NOT PURCHACE AT ANY COST!!
  • YamFazMan
    YamFazMan UKPosts: 21,480
     Superuser
    Hi
    @CoachDriverPorky
    No trouble importing POI here....
    I have several Tomtom devices ALL of them have 100+ individual POI Categories installed
    Many of the 3rd party POI Categories have many thousands of POI locations
    I have also created and loaded personal POI Categories which were easier to use than a very long list of MyPlaces but after a recent update the Myplaces list is now searchable

    ATB YFM
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
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    As you said, you have to keep creating them. You can’t simply add another place to a POI category from the satnav. It’s diabolical
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
    Outstanding Wayfarer
    MyPlaces are not searchable even tho the device is fully up to date. You have to scroll down 250 saved places before you get to the POI listing. Aargh! It’s rubbish
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
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    Stored POI’s do not show in the Search facility. Why?? Such basic stuff. I hate this product with a passion!! £350 wasted. It’s not fit for purpose
  • DougLap
    DougLap Posts: 10,168
    Superuser
    Hi

    You can search for POI's within your POI files.

    Tap 3Dots
    Select My Places
    Select POI file you have added that you want to search.
    Search facility appears with the POI file you have selected to search.
    You can change Whole Map to Near me, Near Destination Etc
  • YamFazMan
    YamFazMan UKPosts: 21,480
     Superuser
    MyPlaces are not searchable even tho the device is fully up to date. You have to scroll down 250 saved places before you get to the POI listing. Aargh! It’s rubbish
    @CoachDriverPorky
    The MyPlaces list is searchable... The MyPlaces appear on the right-hand side of the Search screen
    Say in MyPlaces you have...
    Costa Worcester
    Costa Bromsgrove
    Costa Droitwitch
    Costa Bridgnorth

    Tap 4Dot (.... menu) Icon --> Tap Search type 'C' and a list of MyPlaces starting with the letter 'C' will appear on the right-hand side of the Search screen
    Either continue to type 'Costa b' and the Costa Bromsgrove and Costa Bridgnorth outlets will display at the top of the list
    Tap the blue keyboard Icon screen bottom right to clear the keyboard and display the list
    Or
    Tap 4Dot (.... menu) Icon --> Tap Search type 'C' and a list of MyPlaces starting with the letter 'C' will appear on the right-hand side of the Search screen continue to type 'Costa
    Tap the blue keyboard Icon screen bottom right to clear the keyboard and a full list of costa outlets will dissplay

    PS... Tap 4Dot (.... menu) Icon --> Tap Search type say 'T' on the right-hand side of the Search screen will be all of your MyPlaces beginning with 'T'
    But on the left-hand side of the Search screen will be a list of your recent destinations beginning with 'T'
    Don't forget to Tap the blue keyboard Icon screen bottom right to clear the keyboard and display the list

    ATB YFM
  • YamFazMan
    YamFazMan UKPosts: 21,480
     Superuser
    Stored POI’s do not show in the Search facility. Why?? Such basic stuff. I hate this product with a passion!! £350 wasted. It’s not fit for purpose
    Hi
    @CoachDriverPorky
    You can show the individual POIs of a POI category on the search screen as a list
    You can search for an individual POI within a POI category during a search
    You can show the individual POIs of a POI category on the search screen Map

    See Tomtom video for using MyDrive... The loading of POI's starts at 2Minutes 10Seconds.....


    For example... I have loaded the 3rd party POI's for the National Trust... To show the POI's for "National Trust" on the map, work your way down to option (2)

    From the main screen
    Tap (....)4Dot Icon (Screen Bottom left)
    Swipe left or Tap the mid/right edge of the screen to go to and tap the MyPlaces Icon
    Scroll down and select the required POI Category For example "National Trust"
    You now have three options
    The Main search area turns blue and "National Trust" is offered with a flashing cursor
    Continue typing the name of the required "National Trust" site, Type dud(maston) (Or as much of the word that's required for Dudmaston Hall appear at the top of the National trust list
    Tap on Dudmaston Hall and select the Drive Icon

    You also have two further options.....
    After the initial "National Trust" POI selection
    There's a dual Icon (screen bottom right) with Three Lines and Two circles

    (1)..... Tap the three Lines Icon (bottom right screen) and a scrollable list will appear of the "National Trust" sites in distance order

    (2)...... Tap the Two circle Icon for the "National Trust" sites POI's to appear on the screen (Pinch zoom for detail) (Note..... On the Start range its easier to tap the plus and minus buttons to zoom the map screen)
    as far as I'm aware it will show the nearest 60ish POI's around your location

    There is also a Keyboard Icon (screen bottom right) to return to the search window from the options (1) and (2)

    The POI Icons are generic and dynamic the Icons change with the zoom level
    If your searching for a 3RD party POI Category say a "Burger King" restaurant, the displayed generic Icons will all be for "Burger King" so using the present system you don't need the "Burger King" Logo

    You can of course tap one of the generic Icons to open a quick menu
    With the name of the POI... The option to Drive there
    Plus a 3Dot Quick Menu Icon with further options

    ATB YFM
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
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    The Professional (haha) 6200 does not even allow you to check what services are on route!! An absolute MUST for lorry and coach drivers to plan their breaks. Complete waste of £350. Not fit for purpose
  • YamFazMan
    YamFazMan UKPosts: 21,480
     Superuser
    Hi
    @CoachDriverPorky

    I have the 'Key Fuels' POI Catagory installed

    Plan and calulate the Route
    Tap 4Dot (... Menu) --> Tap MyPlaces... scroll down to say the 'Key Fuels' POI Catagory
    Tap whole Map Icon (Screen top right)
    Select 'Along the Route'
    The first 'Key fuel' POI along the route is at the top of the list
    Tap the Blue keyboard Icon... Screen bottom right for the full list of 'Key fuel' POI along the route

    There's also is a Dual function Icon with '2 Circles' & '3 lines'

    Tap the '2 Circle' Icon next to the Blue keyboard Icon for the search map... Pinch zoom and scroll the Map to see the 'Key fuel' Icons along the route
    Tap the '3 lines' Icon to return to the full list 'Key fuel' POI along the route
    Tap the Blue keyboard Icon to return to the Planning screen

    ATB YFM
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
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    Thank you for reply but you are still missing the point. This cost £350! It is the Professional (haha) 6200.
    It does not have fundamental functions that a Professional driver requires.

    You cannot edit POI’s from the satnav. You have to own a computer. Basic stuff.

    It does not automatically show rest areas in the side bar to help Professional drivers plan their legal breaks. BASIC STUFF

    When ‘searching’ it does not list POI’s in the results I.e. all the places a Professional drivers saves at each destination. BASIC STUFF

    My my point is you have to keep MANUALLY checking where you can stop which changes constantly with traffic flow. I DRIVE for a living and can’t stop every five minutes to alter my satnav!!

    My POI’s can only be accessed through My Places and then and ONLY THEN after scrolling through 250 saved favourite places!!! Aargh!! IT IS EXTREMELY TIME COMSUMING when planning from one POI to another. Something I have to do 20-30 times a day as a professional driver. BASIC STUFF

    This is not built for ‘Professional’ drivers. It is a very basic satnav that has a ‘Low Bridge’ and ‘weight’ facility built in. Something I could have done loading FREE POI’s on my old satnav. IT IS NOT WORTH £350 AND IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE AS IT IS NOT DESIGNED AROUND A PROFESSIONAL DRIVER AS THE NAME SUGGESTS.
  • big
    big Posts: 1,719
    Superuser
    Rest areas can be shown automatically as can some POIs.

    See Settings -> Appearance -> Route bar
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
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    Doesn’t work. If you plan a route from Stevenage to Dover you pass four services. South Mimms, Thurrock, Maidstone & Gateway. Not a single Rest Area is shown in sidebar. This is BASIC stuff for a Professional Driver. I could have bought a satnav for £100 and painted the words ‘Professional’ on it and saved myself £250. The 6200 is the biggest waste of money going. Mis-sold. Completely ripped off
  • big
    big Posts: 1,719
    Superuser
    If the services are directly on your route and they are not showing there's certainly something wrong. Perhaps they are after an exit?
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
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    The Services are within 20 metres of the motorway with possibly the exception of Thurrock. These are MAJOR services and don't appear on route. How TomTom have the cheek to call this 'Professional' is beyond me
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
    Outstanding Wayfarer
    I've noticed YamFazMan (TomTom Employee) has stopped responding as I've proved the failings of TomToms software. looking at the Forum, This has been going on for over a year .Stuck with a product that is not fit for purpose. Once you've called them out they label you as a 'troll'
  • big
    big Posts: 1,719
    Superuser
    I fully agree the software needs improving. But YamFazMan is NOT an TomTom employee. I plan to stop responding as well at this point.

    The devices we are discussing here and those of the competitors really are consumer versions regardless of "Professional" in their names. They have similar failings, though probably there will be some improvement over time if the consumer end of the companies survive. The true professional products -- made by TomTom and competitors -- DO exist and are mostly beyond our reach.
  • CoachDriverPorky
    CoachDriverPorky Registered Users Posts: 19
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    I would suggest this ‘Professional’ device at £300+ is beyond most people’s reach. The only difference between a £70 satnav and this one is the ‘special POI’s’ which you can add yourself for FREE. In fact, the £70 one you can edit the POI’s on the device without the need of a stupid computer!! The 6200 is appalling and TomTom know it. I’ve read hundreds of complaints dating back over a year and TomTom have done NOTHING. Disgusted at their false advertising and disgusted at their so called customer service
  • Lincol
    Lincol Registered Users Posts: 8
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    Have been reading this thread with interest as I have a 6200 on the way, I am replacing my old 750 Live. I have always used PocketGPS camera database as it's the best along with various POIs for my French Trips. I have asked TT support and they say I can load 3rd party Pois via My Drive. I like Tom Tom's but could I have spent less or maybe spent on another make
    Lincol ?
  • YamFazMan
    YamFazMan UKPosts: 21,480
     Superuser
    Hi
    @Lincol

    Yes you can load the Pocket GPS World camera database but you can only display the built-in generic Tomtom Icons, you can't display the associated .BMP Icons for the PGW camera database or set/use any proximity warnings sounds
    Probably have to use the single file database you wont have enough generic Tomtom Icons for the 20 30 40 50 60 70 and Red Light Cameras etc... multi file database

    ATB YFM
  • Lincol
    Lincol Registered Users Posts: 8
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    YamFazMan
    Sounds far from ideal, guess there must be a cheaper model that allows these to be loaded up like my 750 did, they offer a 14 day return policy.
    I guess the best place to look is on Pocket GPS site ?
  • BrianE
    BrianE Worcester, United KingdomRegistered Users Posts: 566
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    Lincol wrote:
    Have been reading this thread with interest as I have a 6200 on the way, I am replacing my old 750 Live. I have always used PocketGPS camera database as it's the best along with various POIs for my French Trips. I have asked TT support and they say I can load 3rd party Pois via My Drive. I like Tom Tom's but could I have spent less or maybe spent on another make
    Lincol ?
    If you definitely want to use PocketGPSWorld cameras, you'd better cancel your order forthwith as you won't be able to use them on your GO 6200. Also, the TomTom mobile cameras database that you get for free with the 6200 is useless in the UK at least.
  • YamFazMan
    YamFazMan UKPosts: 21,480
     Superuser
    Hi
    @BrianE


    I wouldn't describe the Tomtom NAV4/5(Wi-Fi) speed cam database as useless, I think Tomtoms aim is to stop users being annoyed with false positives, so they try to make the Speed cam database 'Smart' but it relies on users reporting the live cameras locations ( I always report Live Speed Cams)
    Many users never venture in the Setting menus so I cant see why the Mobile Camera Hot spots are turned off by default
    ____________________________

    On my NAV3 devices I prefer PocketGPSWorld cameras database I don't mind the false positives. at least I know where the cameras are, but they can be very tiresome for example along the A49 to Worcester where the Camera van has lots of locations
    The warning come thick & fast like a peel of Church bells on a Sunday morning :laughing:
    ____________________________
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    For general improvement for a NAV4/5(Wifi) device over the default settings

    Always use a Computer voice...
    Also.... From the main screen... Tap (.... Menu) -> Setting -> Sounds & Warnings...
    Set... 'Warning Type' to... Read Allowed...
    (Important... Needs a Computer Voice set in the Voices menu
    Speed Cameras & Hazards... Set to ON
    The next 10 Setting ALL set to Always
    The next 4 Settings ALL set to ON
    The device will now say....
    'Fixed Camera'
    'Mobile Hot Spot'
    'Red Light Camera'
    'Spoken Traffic delays

    ATB YFM
  • Lincol
    Lincol Registered Users Posts: 8
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    Nav4/5 device is Go 520/62 & 5200/6200 device ??
  • YamFazMan
    YamFazMan UKPosts: 21,480
     Superuser
    Hi
    @Lincol

    Yes the GO 520/620 & 5200/6200 are NAV5 (Wi-Fi) devices

    ATB YFM